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03-01 06:19 PM
Look at what NumbersUSA has got to say about the effectiveness of its mass faxing/emailing strategy...
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From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Wednesday 1MAR06 5:30 p.m. EST
Day 3-----Media confirm your calls/faxes making a difference in fighting Specter's amnesty
YOUR CONTINUED PHONE CALLS AND FAXES ARE BRINGING PAIN TO SENATORS WHO WANTED TO PASS AN AMNESTY
NEWS ITEM
"Despite the breadth of interest groups
advocating an expanded guest-worker program,
the enforcement-only crowd makes considerably
more noise on Capitol Hill, if the flood
of mail, e-mail and phone calls to member
offices is any indication."
The power of what you are doing has been confirmed in a big story in The Hill newspaper. This daily publication is the community newspaper for the tens of thousands of people who work in congressional offices on Capitol Hill.
It claims that the power of your phoning and faxing may be countering the power of the Chamber of Commerce, religious lobbies, ethnic lobbies, ACLU and cheap-labor corporations combined.
With the Senate Judiciary Committee prepared to start tomorrow (Thursday) voting on amendments to the giant amnesty bill of its chairman, Sen. Specter, the newspaper stated that the open borders positions are supported by one of the largest and most powerful blocs of groups ever assembled.
But the newspaper reported that you all may be more influential:
"A handful of single-issue groups opposing
the guest-worker program have effectively
put the other side on the defensive since
President Bush first announced his intentions
to push comprehensive immigration reform, as
evidenced by the administration's backtracking
since Bush first proposed such a program in
January 2004.
"One of those groups, Numbers USA, has 135,000
registered activists throughout the country and
an e-mail list in excess of 1 million subscribers,
all of whom have signed up voluntarily, said
Caroline Espinosa, a spokeswoman for the group.
A link on the Numbers USA website also allows browsers
to fax a personal note to members of Congress in
support of increased enforcement of illegal immigration."
None of this changes the fact that most Senators want to have 2 million to 3 million foreign workers and their families being added to our laborforce and communities each year.
But we are getting reports from the Hill and from many of you that many of them are starting to show some signs of concern about how their open-borders voting may affect their standing back home.
We don't like being called "anti-immigration," but we like what the reporter said he found in talking to people in the Senate:
"The anti-immigration crowd has political momentum
at this stage in the fight, with congressional
Republicans wary to cast any vote that could turn
off their conservative base during this critical
election year, but members will also have a hard
time ignoring such a broad cross-section of business,
labor and social groups with their own self-interested
constituents."
Now, if we could just get more Democratic Senators to start worrying about their base.
Well, we got a little sign of hope on that front today. The AFL-CIO -- which is selling out its tradition and its American members by pushing an amnesty -- has come out against Specter's and McCain's amnesty bills because they have gigantic foreign guestworker programs. That gives hope that some Democratic Senators would vote against these bills. And it is doubtful that the Republican open-border Senators would vote for an amnesty that didn't include the guestworker provisions so sought by the Chamber of Commerce.
PLEASE CHECK YOUR ACTION BUFFET AND KEEP MAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS AND SENDING YOUR FAXES
What you have been doing is working. You have kept phones and fax machines ringing since first-thing Monday morning through this minute. Do not let up.
Click here for actions to take.
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
WATCH FOR BY-THE-MINUTE ALERTS ON THURSDAY AS WE ASK YOU TO REACT TO SENATORS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY TAKE BAD ACTIONS IN COMMITTEE
Our seven-person Capitol Hill Team of professionals will be in the Committee Room and other key Capitol Hill locations all day assisting our six-person Website Team to provide you with updates and help in where your activism can do the most good.
The reason you NumbersUSA activists are seen as the primary constituency pressure force on the Hill in pushing sensible immigration policies is because of the work that I know most of you will do tomorrow.
GET ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED ABOUT THE SPECTER BILL AND THE ACTION IN THE SENATE
Just go to our Hot Topics page, which has links for detailed analysis of the bill.
http://numbersusa.com/hottopic/specterproposal.html
Thanks for all you can do. And thanks for all the reports that you have been sending back to us on what you hear when you call. Our Capitol Team makes good use of your reports.
DON'T LET UP,
-- ROY
If you have time, you might enjoy reading some more of The Hill article:
"Numbers USA also does objective and subjective
summaries of each bill introduced on the issue
and notifies subscribers in advance of any
important actions on Capitol Hill, such as this
week's markup. As such, the group was expected to
send an alert asking those supporters living in
states represented by members of the Senate
Judiciary Committee to call or fax their members
in anticipation of that markup.
"Battling with groups like Numbers USA is an
uncommon experience for many members of the business
community because they do not regularly work on
such socially sensitive topics.
"We don't usually end up on the other side of single-issue groups," Gay said. "That's unusual for us."
* * * * *
"The National Restaurant Association usually does not join forces with the National Council of La Raza, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce rarely, if ever, aligns itself with the Conference of Catholic Bishops.
"But those organizations and many others have come together in support of a comprehensive immigration-reform bill that would expand guest-worker programs and offer undocumented workers already in this country a path to citizenship. They are up against an aggressive cross-section of single-issue organizations that favor increased enforcement of immigration laws and have condemned any legislation that would allow undocumented workers already here eventually to become citizens.
"With the Senate Judiciary Committee expected to mark up its version of the immigration bill Thursday, groups on either side of the issue have geared up for a hard fight, and the vehemence and intractability of either side should make compromise particularly difficult for lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
"A unique coalition of divergent interest groups have rallied in support of a bill introduced by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).
"he fact that the Chamber of Commerce needs comprehensive immigration reform is very good," said Flavia Jimenez, an outreach director for the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy organization.
"Members of the business community also appreciate working with groups such as La Raza because it allows the overarching coalition to communicate with Republicans and Democrats alike on Capitol Hill.
"It's nice actually to get to work with these guys," said John Gay, a senior vice president for government affairs with the National Restaurant Association, which co-chairs the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition (EWIC), a group of more than 40 business and trade associations seeking comprehensive reform.
"Because the many groups within this broad coalition have slightly different priorities, they must communicate regularly to push common themes. In the end, these organizations are all fighting for what they consider the best interests of their dues-paying members.
"Despite the breadth of interest groups
advocating an expanded guest-worker program,
the enforcement-only crowd makes considerably
more noise on Capitol Hill, if the flood
of mail, e-mail and phone calls to member
offices is any indication."
This may be a good time for you to make sure that you've let us know all of the areas you are interested in. In order to further customize the type of alerts you receive click here http://www.numbersusa.com/survey?action=longlist
As a NumbersUSA subscriber, you will receive occasional emails about immigration-related opportunities. If you want to increase or reduce the frequency of these emails, click here and choose from Total Activism, Moderate Activism, or Limited Activism at the bottom of your registration form: http://www.numbersusa.com/user
NumbersUSA - relies upon individuals like you to reach its goal of an environmentally sustainable and economically just America.
-------------------------
From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Wednesday 1MAR06 5:30 p.m. EST
Day 3-----Media confirm your calls/faxes making a difference in fighting Specter's amnesty
YOUR CONTINUED PHONE CALLS AND FAXES ARE BRINGING PAIN TO SENATORS WHO WANTED TO PASS AN AMNESTY
NEWS ITEM
"Despite the breadth of interest groups
advocating an expanded guest-worker program,
the enforcement-only crowd makes considerably
more noise on Capitol Hill, if the flood
of mail, e-mail and phone calls to member
offices is any indication."
The power of what you are doing has been confirmed in a big story in The Hill newspaper. This daily publication is the community newspaper for the tens of thousands of people who work in congressional offices on Capitol Hill.
It claims that the power of your phoning and faxing may be countering the power of the Chamber of Commerce, religious lobbies, ethnic lobbies, ACLU and cheap-labor corporations combined.
With the Senate Judiciary Committee prepared to start tomorrow (Thursday) voting on amendments to the giant amnesty bill of its chairman, Sen. Specter, the newspaper stated that the open borders positions are supported by one of the largest and most powerful blocs of groups ever assembled.
But the newspaper reported that you all may be more influential:
"A handful of single-issue groups opposing
the guest-worker program have effectively
put the other side on the defensive since
President Bush first announced his intentions
to push comprehensive immigration reform, as
evidenced by the administration's backtracking
since Bush first proposed such a program in
January 2004.
"One of those groups, Numbers USA, has 135,000
registered activists throughout the country and
an e-mail list in excess of 1 million subscribers,
all of whom have signed up voluntarily, said
Caroline Espinosa, a spokeswoman for the group.
A link on the Numbers USA website also allows browsers
to fax a personal note to members of Congress in
support of increased enforcement of illegal immigration."
None of this changes the fact that most Senators want to have 2 million to 3 million foreign workers and their families being added to our laborforce and communities each year.
But we are getting reports from the Hill and from many of you that many of them are starting to show some signs of concern about how their open-borders voting may affect their standing back home.
We don't like being called "anti-immigration," but we like what the reporter said he found in talking to people in the Senate:
"The anti-immigration crowd has political momentum
at this stage in the fight, with congressional
Republicans wary to cast any vote that could turn
off their conservative base during this critical
election year, but members will also have a hard
time ignoring such a broad cross-section of business,
labor and social groups with their own self-interested
constituents."
Now, if we could just get more Democratic Senators to start worrying about their base.
Well, we got a little sign of hope on that front today. The AFL-CIO -- which is selling out its tradition and its American members by pushing an amnesty -- has come out against Specter's and McCain's amnesty bills because they have gigantic foreign guestworker programs. That gives hope that some Democratic Senators would vote against these bills. And it is doubtful that the Republican open-border Senators would vote for an amnesty that didn't include the guestworker provisions so sought by the Chamber of Commerce.
PLEASE CHECK YOUR ACTION BUFFET AND KEEP MAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS AND SENDING YOUR FAXES
What you have been doing is working. You have kept phones and fax machines ringing since first-thing Monday morning through this minute. Do not let up.
Click here for actions to take.
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
WATCH FOR BY-THE-MINUTE ALERTS ON THURSDAY AS WE ASK YOU TO REACT TO SENATORS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY TAKE BAD ACTIONS IN COMMITTEE
Our seven-person Capitol Hill Team of professionals will be in the Committee Room and other key Capitol Hill locations all day assisting our six-person Website Team to provide you with updates and help in where your activism can do the most good.
The reason you NumbersUSA activists are seen as the primary constituency pressure force on the Hill in pushing sensible immigration policies is because of the work that I know most of you will do tomorrow.
GET ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED ABOUT THE SPECTER BILL AND THE ACTION IN THE SENATE
Just go to our Hot Topics page, which has links for detailed analysis of the bill.
http://numbersusa.com/hottopic/specterproposal.html
Thanks for all you can do. And thanks for all the reports that you have been sending back to us on what you hear when you call. Our Capitol Team makes good use of your reports.
DON'T LET UP,
-- ROY
If you have time, you might enjoy reading some more of The Hill article:
"Numbers USA also does objective and subjective
summaries of each bill introduced on the issue
and notifies subscribers in advance of any
important actions on Capitol Hill, such as this
week's markup. As such, the group was expected to
send an alert asking those supporters living in
states represented by members of the Senate
Judiciary Committee to call or fax their members
in anticipation of that markup.
"Battling with groups like Numbers USA is an
uncommon experience for many members of the business
community because they do not regularly work on
such socially sensitive topics.
"We don't usually end up on the other side of single-issue groups," Gay said. "That's unusual for us."
* * * * *
"The National Restaurant Association usually does not join forces with the National Council of La Raza, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce rarely, if ever, aligns itself with the Conference of Catholic Bishops.
"But those organizations and many others have come together in support of a comprehensive immigration-reform bill that would expand guest-worker programs and offer undocumented workers already in this country a path to citizenship. They are up against an aggressive cross-section of single-issue organizations that favor increased enforcement of immigration laws and have condemned any legislation that would allow undocumented workers already here eventually to become citizens.
"With the Senate Judiciary Committee expected to mark up its version of the immigration bill Thursday, groups on either side of the issue have geared up for a hard fight, and the vehemence and intractability of either side should make compromise particularly difficult for lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
"A unique coalition of divergent interest groups have rallied in support of a bill introduced by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).
"he fact that the Chamber of Commerce needs comprehensive immigration reform is very good," said Flavia Jimenez, an outreach director for the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy organization.
"Members of the business community also appreciate working with groups such as La Raza because it allows the overarching coalition to communicate with Republicans and Democrats alike on Capitol Hill.
"It's nice actually to get to work with these guys," said John Gay, a senior vice president for government affairs with the National Restaurant Association, which co-chairs the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition (EWIC), a group of more than 40 business and trade associations seeking comprehensive reform.
"Because the many groups within this broad coalition have slightly different priorities, they must communicate regularly to push common themes. In the end, these organizations are all fighting for what they consider the best interests of their dues-paying members.
"Despite the breadth of interest groups
advocating an expanded guest-worker program,
the enforcement-only crowd makes considerably
more noise on Capitol Hill, if the flood
of mail, e-mail and phone calls to member
offices is any indication."
This may be a good time for you to make sure that you've let us know all of the areas you are interested in. In order to further customize the type of alerts you receive click here http://www.numbersusa.com/survey?action=longlist
As a NumbersUSA subscriber, you will receive occasional emails about immigration-related opportunities. If you want to increase or reduce the frequency of these emails, click here and choose from Total Activism, Moderate Activism, or Limited Activism at the bottom of your registration form: http://www.numbersusa.com/user
NumbersUSA - relies upon individuals like you to reach its goal of an environmentally sustainable and economically just America.
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eb3retro
05-14 10:46 PM
I already contributed after hearing the news that my pd is current.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=63110#post63110
Will continue to contribute in future.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=63110#post63110
Will continue to contribute in future.
leoindiano
07-09 01:45 PM
Buddy,
Why you are so angry??. I know more than you about immigration and all the rules. you try to understand the English properly and the meaning. I hope you are from a very remote place in India. So for you to understand better, Here is the meanign fo my message.
GUYS, YOUR PRIORITY DATE IS 2006 and why you are asking for the premium processing when many of your friends are still waiting to file their I 140 or I 485.
Don't try to put harsh words in public forums. You will get them back as a Boomerang...... Understand?:mad:
Needless to respond...but cant stay calm....
We were trying to track what is going on? 15 days was the published deadline. Priority date of mine is Nov 2004. You can check my previous posts. You are the one who was harsh to start with. Now you are talking about english. You got the boomarang.. good luck
Why you are so angry??. I know more than you about immigration and all the rules. you try to understand the English properly and the meaning. I hope you are from a very remote place in India. So for you to understand better, Here is the meanign fo my message.
GUYS, YOUR PRIORITY DATE IS 2006 and why you are asking for the premium processing when many of your friends are still waiting to file their I 140 or I 485.
Don't try to put harsh words in public forums. You will get them back as a Boomerang...... Understand?:mad:
Needless to respond...but cant stay calm....
We were trying to track what is going on? 15 days was the published deadline. Priority date of mine is Nov 2004. You can check my previous posts. You are the one who was harsh to start with. Now you are talking about english. You got the boomarang.. good luck
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caforum2
09-14 06:34 AM
for folks in US, you don't need to go to Chennai, You can chose whichever consulate you want. I choose New Delhi instead of Chennai recently and got appointment in 15 days in advance. I know Oct is full in Delhi, Kolkatta, Chennai and Mumbai. I would wait till Sept 20th to see Oct dats. Usually people book appointments and change the dates only closer to interview date.
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kumarc123
11-06 03:46 PM
sreedhar
Keep that GRIN for your later years, this web site is made to help people who are stuck in the immigration limbo.
There are lot of us out there who have their personal decisions at stake.
Keep that GRIN for your later years, this web site is made to help people who are stuck in the immigration limbo.
There are lot of us out there who have their personal decisions at stake.
for_ac21iv
06-01 03:21 PM
Hellow Anindya,
Thank you for pointing the petition.
I saw the petition, and I see that there are some 251 signatories.
Whats next with it ? Can we use that to "lobby" ?
Let us all know about it. So we can make it effective.
Keep posting thank you.
regards,
You guys might want to check out my online petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/legalimm/petition.html
Thank you for pointing the petition.
I saw the petition, and I see that there are some 251 signatories.
Whats next with it ? Can we use that to "lobby" ?
Let us all know about it. So we can make it effective.
Keep posting thank you.
regards,
You guys might want to check out my online petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/legalimm/petition.html
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jsb
02-06 12:24 PM
Cris,
I just called teh number and was able to talk to the officer.. he said the case under review.. means.. Any idea.
Thanks again.
As others have replied, "under review" means, it is somewhere in the stacks of files. They may not even know where it is.
I just called teh number and was able to talk to the officer.. he said the case under review.. means.. Any idea.
Thanks again.
As others have replied, "under review" means, it is somewhere in the stacks of files. They may not even know where it is.
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abhijitp
07-08 02:06 PM
I'm sorry but why he did not say IV... i'm not trying to offened anybody people from all over are sending as well. it would make it better if he said the legal immigrant community
Given that (I believe) he regularly visits IV and gets information from here, but never wants to give IV the credit for it.
Given that (I believe) he regularly visits IV and gets information from here, but never wants to give IV the credit for it.
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gc_check
07-12 05:51 AM
Our lawyer Company has decided to file the AOS application in July
I work for a big 5 Software company & our lawyer Littler Global had taken a stand on July that they will not file our AOS application after the June VB was revoked/amended on July 2nd.
Surprisingly , today we have received a mail from them that that keeping in view our best interest they have decided to file our AOS case in July regardless of CIS receipting them.
Wanted to share this information as it may be helpful for you folks too ...
Vivek
Looks like most of the Attorney's who told, they will not file after the July 2nd revision of VB, are now planning to file anyway. Think the decission could have influenced after the Tuesday's Aila Conf. Call. My Attorney finally gave updates that they would have all the 485's completed and ready to go while monitoring the situation and action of AILA/USCIS and will file if is of the best interest to the applicant. Also, the reason they are holding back now is also, what if, USCIS neither receipts nor rejects the applications and hold them and argue they cannot take an action as the cases are subject to litigation.... then it could be even worse.... Any thoughts on this...Folks share your communication with your attorney's if any details worth sharing.
I work for a big 5 Software company & our lawyer Littler Global had taken a stand on July that they will not file our AOS application after the June VB was revoked/amended on July 2nd.
Surprisingly , today we have received a mail from them that that keeping in view our best interest they have decided to file our AOS case in July regardless of CIS receipting them.
Wanted to share this information as it may be helpful for you folks too ...
Vivek
Looks like most of the Attorney's who told, they will not file after the July 2nd revision of VB, are now planning to file anyway. Think the decission could have influenced after the Tuesday's Aila Conf. Call. My Attorney finally gave updates that they would have all the 485's completed and ready to go while monitoring the situation and action of AILA/USCIS and will file if is of the best interest to the applicant. Also, the reason they are holding back now is also, what if, USCIS neither receipts nor rejects the applications and hold them and argue they cannot take an action as the cases are subject to litigation.... then it could be even worse.... Any thoughts on this...Folks share your communication with your attorney's if any details worth sharing.
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The7zen
06-14 08:01 PM
Thank you for your inputs. I really appreciated for your help. We went to Detective office and he allowed my sister only to question. He asked couple of questions regarding that family and theft. My sister explained him that she don't know about that situation. It took about 20 minutes time there. We have below questions still remains in our mind.
1) Do we really required a Lawyer to protect?
2) I believe they should have proper information to arrest or accuse right?
3) We know my sister is innocent but feeling insecure for being happend. so what are all the chances to again question my sister?.
After viewing your messages here, we realized it is wrong to go to Detective office but we went this morning
Please help me in this
1) Its better to have a lawyer in these type of situations, especially if they have to record your statements.
3) Did you talk to the accuser to find out what exactly is happening and why he is suspecting your sister? BTW if you do so, just be polite and listen to what he says dont get agitated over the phone.
Good luck....
1) Do we really required a Lawyer to protect?
2) I believe they should have proper information to arrest or accuse right?
3) We know my sister is innocent but feeling insecure for being happend. so what are all the chances to again question my sister?.
After viewing your messages here, we realized it is wrong to go to Detective office but we went this morning
Please help me in this
1) Its better to have a lawyer in these type of situations, especially if they have to record your statements.
3) Did you talk to the accuser to find out what exactly is happening and why he is suspecting your sister? BTW if you do so, just be polite and listen to what he says dont get agitated over the phone.
Good luck....
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Suva
06-08 10:22 PM
I support it.
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chanduv23
06-06 11:29 PM
I'm in Chicago and will like to move to Atlanta area....Do you guys know how is the IT market (Architect, .NET) doing in this area? Looking at dice and computerjobs, i do see the same jobs getting repeated...Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated..
I lived in Atlanta for 4 years. The job market is just OK there. Not quite sure your reason for the move from Chicago, but if you are looking for weather and job prospects then, Dallas, TX could be a better choice. I maybe wrong but based on what I see - there seem to be more opportunities in the metroplex area
I lived in Atlanta for 4 years. The job market is just OK there. Not quite sure your reason for the move from Chicago, but if you are looking for weather and job prospects then, Dallas, TX could be a better choice. I maybe wrong but based on what I see - there seem to be more opportunities in the metroplex area
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08-03 06:25 PM
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rb_248
09-10 03:26 PM
Got the cards in the mail. My online case status says the application is still pending.
Folks (those whose PDs are current this month),
Check with your attorney, in your mail boxes along with the online USCIS case status. You may get the good news in your mail box or from your attorney's office before your status is updated online.
This is what my attorney had to say:
The USCIS online status system is maintained by contract workers and is often inaccurate.
My Online status got updated today. Snail mail is faster than email - happens only with USCIS. Anyways, my journey is over. Good luck to others.
Folks (those whose PDs are current this month),
Check with your attorney, in your mail boxes along with the online USCIS case status. You may get the good news in your mail box or from your attorney's office before your status is updated online.
This is what my attorney had to say:
The USCIS online status system is maintained by contract workers and is often inaccurate.
My Online status got updated today. Snail mail is faster than email - happens only with USCIS. Anyways, my journey is over. Good luck to others.
more...
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saileshdude
09-04 11:37 AM
You can work on h1b - you will get H1b based on existing approved 140 and pending 485.
If 140 is revoked by employer you may get a RFE or NOID or in rare cases erroneous denial but you can continue on h1b while you respond to RFE or NOID oor through MTR to erroneous denial.
Sending AC21 docs does not necessarily mean you may not get NOID - AC21 docs seldom go into your file.
This is yet another inefficiency on their part. When it comes to AC21 your file does not even get updated even though you may have attached I-485 receipt along with AC21 filing. But when the employer revokes I-140 they don't forget to send you NOID or even I-485 denial.
If 140 is revoked by employer you may get a RFE or NOID or in rare cases erroneous denial but you can continue on h1b while you respond to RFE or NOID oor through MTR to erroneous denial.
Sending AC21 docs does not necessarily mean you may not get NOID - AC21 docs seldom go into your file.
This is yet another inefficiency on their part. When it comes to AC21 your file does not even get updated even though you may have attached I-485 receipt along with AC21 filing. But when the employer revokes I-140 they don't forget to send you NOID or even I-485 denial.
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vinzak
04-13 09:27 AM
What exactly is the question?
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Waitingnvain
08-04 03:36 PM
I believe one will be eligible for SS after attaining 40 credits. There is no residency requirement. WRT 401K, you might ending up paying a penalty of 10% in addition to 30% tax.
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krishnam70
07-18 12:34 PM
There's no need for you to be negative.
Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....
wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
ps57002
There have been numerous threads in this forum about the utility of sending more flowers to USCIS, whitehouse, condi, Bush etc etc and there is no consenus on that. Now If you need to try to bring to attention the delays of the BEC try something innovative or if you feel flowers are the way to go
then go do it, but before doing that try to find out your audience, how many people are affected by this. In case of 485 retro there were thousands of people who were affected and so there was a tremendous response. Now while i do not deny that there might be same kind of numbers stuck in BEC you need to bring the issue in to focus and make a drive to bring in the believers.
The flower campaign started off as a small remark and some people believed it would work and just kept working on it and ultimately it 'may' have worked because of the organized activity that took place. Now if you believe it will work for BEC centers too go ahead with your plan( I am not sure IV will support it, initally the Gandhigiri did not have IV support too if i recall). If people believe it will work they will join the campaign. Publicise your efforts and you will see results.
go do it..
cheers
edit:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
IV has recommendation to not use flowers going forward
BEC reduction is one of they key goals of IV going forward. so stay tight you should hear something soon
Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....
wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
ps57002
There have been numerous threads in this forum about the utility of sending more flowers to USCIS, whitehouse, condi, Bush etc etc and there is no consenus on that. Now If you need to try to bring to attention the delays of the BEC try something innovative or if you feel flowers are the way to go
then go do it, but before doing that try to find out your audience, how many people are affected by this. In case of 485 retro there were thousands of people who were affected and so there was a tremendous response. Now while i do not deny that there might be same kind of numbers stuck in BEC you need to bring the issue in to focus and make a drive to bring in the believers.
The flower campaign started off as a small remark and some people believed it would work and just kept working on it and ultimately it 'may' have worked because of the organized activity that took place. Now if you believe it will work for BEC centers too go ahead with your plan( I am not sure IV will support it, initally the Gandhigiri did not have IV support too if i recall). If people believe it will work they will join the campaign. Publicise your efforts and you will see results.
go do it..
cheers
edit:
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
IV has recommendation to not use flowers going forward
BEC reduction is one of they key goals of IV going forward. so stay tight you should hear something soon
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pbojja
03-24 05:47 PM
Great job Mark ,Appreciate your efforts
I think the last caller is a stupid and dont know the difference between the Highly skilled and Undocumented workers , he is refereing to workers in restaurent to the H1B workers .
I think the last caller is a stupid and dont know the difference between the Highly skilled and Undocumented workers , he is refereing to workers in restaurent to the H1B workers .
salvador marley
06-07 06:40 PM
wow i got two in - great prizes too.
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logiclife
04-13 11:23 AM
We have to first have confidence on our own strengths. We are a 10.5K strong group and well poised to become the largest grassroots advocacy organization of high skilled immigrants.
Key lawmaker offices now know us. We have appeared in top media. We have the best Lobbyists in the country working for us.
No other organization can claim such success in 1 year since inception. All we need is support of $20/month from members in order to continue this effort and grow it.
There are people in Washington DC who influence congress as their profession. They are called "Lobbyists". Like the ones we have hired, with Patton-Boggs.
And then there is an organization like Immigration Voice that is raising funds to pay for lobbying.
What value can an Indian American organization add that Immigration Voice and professional lobbying cannot add?
Indian American Organizations have been educated many many times about this problem by Immigration Voice. We have told them that if you represent the 2.3 million Indian American Community, then you should be working on this issue, because this issue affects 1 out of every 5 Indian Americans of that 2.3 million.
Well, they have shown very lukewarm response.
And frankly, they have other agendas and we shouldnt honestly expect them to do our bidding.
We call ourselves highly skilled, implying that we are reasonably wellpaid. Also, we are 500,000 strong. And we have an organization to raise money and pay for lobbying. So why CANT WE HELP OURSELVES?
Key lawmaker offices now know us. We have appeared in top media. We have the best Lobbyists in the country working for us.
No other organization can claim such success in 1 year since inception. All we need is support of $20/month from members in order to continue this effort and grow it.
There are people in Washington DC who influence congress as their profession. They are called "Lobbyists". Like the ones we have hired, with Patton-Boggs.
And then there is an organization like Immigration Voice that is raising funds to pay for lobbying.
What value can an Indian American organization add that Immigration Voice and professional lobbying cannot add?
Indian American Organizations have been educated many many times about this problem by Immigration Voice. We have told them that if you represent the 2.3 million Indian American Community, then you should be working on this issue, because this issue affects 1 out of every 5 Indian Americans of that 2.3 million.
Well, they have shown very lukewarm response.
And frankly, they have other agendas and we shouldnt honestly expect them to do our bidding.
We call ourselves highly skilled, implying that we are reasonably wellpaid. Also, we are 500,000 strong. And we have an organization to raise money and pay for lobbying. So why CANT WE HELP OURSELVES?
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